You Will Not Be The Next Silicon Valley, Please Stop Trying

Newry is a small town on the border of Northern Ireland and the Republic. A town that was only granted the status of city in 2002, and a town that has a population of around 30,000 people. A town that also has big ambitions: to be the next big European startup hub.

Wait, what?

Yes, the idyllic town situated between Belfast and Dublin is looking to capitalize on the latest trend: technology. It is likely that they will be using their experience with livestock and agriculture, and will use it to build the next Y Combinator. Now, I’d be remiss if I failed to mention that sheep herding does in fact help startups. After all, in the cold winters, there’s nothing better than wool to keep you warm.

It is at this moment that we should all take a deep breath and reflect. The “[Fill in the blank] will be the next Silicon Valley of [larger region]” craze has reached critical mass. Every city that has tried to be Silicon Valley somewhere else in the world has failed. The only cities that have seen some success are the ones that bring their own flavor to the technology table, like New York and Las Vegas. That’s not to say startups can’t come from outside of the Valley, but that if they do, they succeed because they are bringing something new to the table and not copying Silicon Valley. Fact: Newry is not one of these places, and Newry does not have a whole lot to offer to technology startups.

For the sake of clarity, though (and to be fair to other cities around the world that would benefit from a startup hub), I believe I should note a few cities that are comparable to Newry. This is by no means a comprehensive list, but it is a good starting point.

Vladivostok, Russia. Population 600,000.

Welcome to Vladivostok, we hope you enjoy your stay! The freeze-bite inducing temperatures force people to stay indoors at all times during the winter, so wear something warm. While most people would find the climate unsettling, it would be perfect for a team of programmers to settle down. Being forced to stay indoors, they will have nothing to do but code to keep warm. Every investors’ dream!

In addition to the charming climate, Vladivostok is only a dog-sled ride away from a port town, which can connect you to Japan and Korea. ‘Like’! With such tight connections to big technology centers, everyone will benefit. These may seem like less-than-ideal conditions, but honestly, who wouldn’t want to spend time in an incubator (literally) working on the Next Big Siberian Startup Hub?

Pardis, Iran. Population 10,000.

Pardis is a picturesque town nestled in the land outside of Tehran. A planned city that boasts quite the technology presence. It is home to Pardis Technology Park, where the Telecommunication Company of Iran has set up a satellite substation. That’s not all folks! Recently, Pars Online, an Iranian ISP set up the first private data center in Iran in Pardis. Of all the technology parks, in all the cities outside of capitals, in all of the countries, Pardis!

With a city planned to reach 200,000 (whether the people want to relocate or not, get my point?), it would be the perfect place for an accelerator. Sure, you aren’t allowed to say anything about the government, and sure, no foreign investment is really allowed. But as the hacker mentality has proven, working under tight restrictions makes a great place for hacking! There’s no tighter restriction than possible execution following failure!

Sirte, Libya. Population 80,000.

Sirte is well-known at this point as the hometown of former Libyan Dictator Muammar Gaddafi. However, what most people don’t know is that while Gaddafi was in power, he built up Sirte as a city with excellent infrastructure. The war only damaged a good portion of it, but there’s no road a Humvee can’t get over!

That’s not the best Sirte has to offer, though. If you’re into public funding, there is massive foreign involvement ongoing in Sirte. With French, British and American forces coming and going, not only will startups have access to direct government contacts, but the risk of being shot by rival factions startups decreases almost daily, sometimes. Of course, no startup could exist without a solid internet connection, which Libya has every time there is not an ongoing civil war. That’s almost 50% uptime!

Guam, United States Unincorporated Territory. Population 180,000.

I’d be remiss if I didn’t mention Guam as the last great place for the next startup hub. You see, Guam not only benefits from tight connections with the United States, but the isolation also leads to boredom. As shown with Vladivostok, isolation leads to better programming! If something deserved a Google +1, it’s Guam.

Now, don’t let the isolation fool you! Sure, Guam is thousands of miles away from its government center. But – and keep this in mind – the Guam Top Level Domain is rarely used. This means that unlike in America, where all of the good ‘.co’s are taken, you would have a virtually unlimited number of ‘.gu’s to pick from. You could start a company with the name GuGu, and you’re off! Really, anything is fair game in Guam, from FuGu to LuGu. Imagine the traffic you’d get with a url like http://www.fu.gu/

When you compare all of these cities to Newry, you really do put things in perspective. The truth is revealed, and you understand where you should locate your startup. Where the ideal place for burgeoning technology should be made. That place is, of course, Newry, Northern Ireland, United Kingdom.

[Update: I've elaborated on my thoughts below.]

Post comment as twitter logo facebook logo
Sort: Newest | Oldest

Fuck off your ignorant pessimistic bastard, Newry isn't that small a town! And population isn't everything, other factors come into play. So shut the fuck up you ignorant pessmistic bastard!

Whether it's right wrong or indifferent, perception is reality. The Irish and English need to stop using terms such as "valley" and "silicon" and instead, innovate with the name at the very least. By using those terms you give the perception that you are trying to copy or improve upon Silicon Valley. If it's a hub, call it a hub. Just don't call it silicon hub. Please.

Is this Nichola Bates whose husband works for InvestNI? Talk about a conflict of interests and clandestine deals...

Newsflash: Absolutely no one - anywhere - thinks Silicon Valley is a model worthy of emulation. It's a smog-soaked hellhole of traffic jams, strip malls, unplanned sprawl, and outrageous cost of living. Stop kidding yourself -- companies aren't looking to relocate to the next Silicon Valley, they're looking to escape that third ring of hell.

Ken, how did you find yourself here? This is a tech news site. I only ask because anyone who knows anything about WHY Silicon Valley is the success factory it obviously is, will tell you you're wrong. Maybe you're having difficulty seeing the opportunities for the smog.

[...] You Will Not Be The Next Silicon Valley, Please Stop Trying [PandoDaily] [...]

[...] against it as a location of choice for a startup, one of the most frequently cited (and something Trevor at PandoDailytouched on last week) is that the ecosystem of Silicon Valley just isn’t developed enough (yet?) on this side of the [...]

Trevor, Trevor, Trevor, Here's some advice. If you're going to slag off entire cities, under the guise of journalism, at least be grammatically correct and have the wit to spellcheck your article. Perhaps ease off on the middle distant stare photos and self promotion, to hone your own craft, before you question the competence of others. You mention the sheep photo was an attempt at humour. One problem Trevor - you're not funny. The people of NI do not take themselves too seriously and the fact you've insulted so many indicates how wide of the mark you've been. You're trying to be 'edgy' and, like a child showing off, you've failed in spectacular fashion. Time to grow up a bit? Your attitude goes against everything technology stands for and, at present, your standard would be better placed in the Femail section of the Daily Mail. You know the kind of stuff, 'hasn't Beyonce put on weight.' ' Are Jude and Sienna back together?' etc etc. Best of luck. God knows you need it.

[...] to help boost its economy by encouraging a startup ecosystem. A little later, a post entitled ‘You will not be the next Silicon Valley, please stop trying‘ appeared over on Pando Daily, in which the author decided pull a bunch of Irish stereotypes out [...]

[...] The goal is to cover more than just individual promising companies, but to really get a sense of what it’s like to start a company in each place. So expect posts about startup culture in each city– what’s good about it and where there are challenges. You may not like everything we write, but you can’t say we’re ignoring you. And at least you can buy Trevor a beer and hope to change his mind in person, rather than just leaving a nasty comment.* [...]

1. Slag off Newry.. if you have been there. 2. To those who put it down. Just watch it go with an advantageous cost base and educated young population. 3. It doesnt need to emulate SV, it needs to simply raise its head.

I've said it before,and I'll say it again:Trevor Gilbert looks like a douche bag,and writes like an even bigger douche bag.

This just seems like an pretentious rant.

Seriously?! This article, here? Poorly written, badly executed, no research (that requires actual work, doesn't it). And for someone that boasts: ..."He has been following technology news habitually for too many years without having a place to explain to people why they're wrong. He now has that place."... in his bio, well... he hasn't traveled enough. And it shows. Trevor, do you know where Riga is? Population around Vladivostok's (600,000+) they have the first TechHub outside London. http://www.techhub.com/riga.html; what about Stockholm (just over 800.000 people) just worthy of mention since it has the most digitally connected economy in the world. Tel Aviv? (400.000) Helsinki (over 500.00) have you played AngryBirds? it's from a Finnish company called Rovio, maybe you haven't followed technology news around the world. Tallinn?? Tetuan Valley? Santiago de Chile? Literally, I could list hundreds of startups, successful ones - for that matter, here. Those places don't want to be like Silicon Valley, they are Startup hubs, in their own, with their own idealic, sorry I mean idyllic flare and savior. Just like to Newry wants (and I quote your article here) "be the next big European startup hub." Well, good for them. So maybe you just have to use another title for the post, because they can be the next startup hub if they want to, they aren't trying to be like SV. I have to agree with Jeff. "This is frankly an awful, sloppy, unresearched, and tasteless piece of journalism. PandoDaily and its readership deserves much better."

I can't believe Pando Daily published this article- it is really anti start-up, insular, xenophobic crap- pure amateur stuff. I only just found Panod Daily- but I think I'll leave it alone now that I know it is written by people who write YouTube comments in their spare time.

Dear Pando Daily, With articles as poorly conceived and executed as this one is, you ought to be ashamed of yourself. Trevor didn't take the time to research the topic properly (he clearly inflated the aspirations of this locale in order to raise a bigger ruckus than was warranted) and he apparently wrote it while sitting on the toilet (judging from the syntax and spelling). And SL, your recently published "riposte" to all of the critical comments on this article fails to make contact with the real issues. You make a big deal about "nationalistic passion," but please, all we have here is a case of distributing digital refuse. Best, John

Vladivostok is geographically not located in Siberia. Look at the map, man. And if you bothered yourself to open wikipedia you would know that temperatures there are not that low. Regarding "Next Big Siberian Startup Hub" there's in fact a city in Siberia called Novosibirsk which accumulated many great scientists during Soviet times, has a good math/physics school and is indeed producing some startups like Quest.li which showed up on LeWeb several times already. The world is bigger than you think it is. Go, take you seat, you've just got an 'F', kid.

Novosibirsk is where the software 'Parallels' is written. Millions of copies sold.

[...] against all odds to do what it feels needs to be done. Of course, some closed-minded folks are already saying that it should give up trying. Why? Practical considerations, of [...]

[...] of the calmer detractors have said if only he’d made his argument about why he doesn’t see a small town in Northern Ireland becoming a startup hub, without [...]

[...] a recent article by Trevor Gilbert over on PandoDaily (a good site) entitled “You will not be the next Silicon Valley, please stop trying”  he clearly says enough about Newry, Northern Ireland to get a few excited comments (which [...]

Keep writing Trevor. This article seems to have more comments than any other here. Its called the Howard Stern effect. Haters love to hate and that brings traffic. Keep writing! Keep posting!

Yep keep it up and you'll score a job at the huffington post

well Howard Stern is actually funny ...

[...] to help boost its economy by encouraging a startup ecosystem. A little later, a post entitled ‘You will not be the next Silicon Valley, please stop trying‘ appeared over on Pando Daily, in which the author decided pull a bunch of Irish stereotypes out [...]

[...] against all odds to do what it feels needs to be done. Of course, some closed-minded folks are already saying that it should give up trying. Why? Practical considerations, of [...]

This is frankly an awful, sloppy, unresearched, and tasteless piece of journalism. PandoDaily and its readership deserves much better.

Is this who Mike @arrington was referring to when asked @saracuda, "how you gonna compete? ...you've got an eighteen year old in there" at the Feb 10 i/o event - now being called the "Techcrunch Circle Jerk" ?

[...] to help boost its economy by encouraging a startup ecosystem. A little later, a post entitled ‘You will not be the next Silicon Valley, please stop trying‘ appeared over on Pando Daily, in which the author decided pull a bunch of Irish stereotypes out [...]

[...] against all odds to do what it feels needs to be done. Of course, some closed-minded folks are already saying that it should give up trying. Why? Practical considerations, of [...]

[...] help boost its economy by encouraging a startup ecosystem. A little later, a post entitled ‘You will not be the next Silicon Valley, please stop trying‘ appeared over on Pando Daily, in which the author decided pull a bunch of Irish stereotypes [...]

First off, I'm sorry about the sheep joke. I'm well aware that agriculture is not NI's dominant industry, just as I'm well aware that you can go outside without dying from the cold in Vladivostok. It was a misrepresentation, and I am sorry about that. Supposed to be a quick bit of humor, but apparently it failed at that. Now, to the point at hand. Everyone seems to be upset that I'm saying Newry won't be a successful tech hub, and that it won't be the next Silicon Valley. Well, it won't be the next Silicon Valley, and neither will New York, or London or Beijing, because Silicon Valley is a one-of-a-kind place. Keep in mind this is coming from someone who lived half of his life in Europe, and isn't even from the Valley. That's not to say these places won't be successful in their own right, but they won't be successful like Silicon Valley is. At least not in the near future. As far as being a technology hub, Newry is much less suited than the cities I just mentioned. It does not have the financial support it needs, it does not have the infrastructure it needs and it doesn't even have the population. While the intentions of the entrepreneurs there are great - and I'd love to be proven wrong and have three new Facebook's come out of Newry next year - the fact remains that most startups fail, and placing them in a small town with no background in technology increases the chances of failure. Don't get me wrong though, I love NI. I want NI to succeed. Frankly, I want everyone to succeed, but that's impossible. I've been there a dozen times in the last few years alone, and if there's one thing I miss from Europe more than anything, it's good Irish potato bread and sausage. Speaking of which, I'd love to be shown what you are doing there in person for my next international trip, and be proven wrong. I really, really would.

a) No one involved with the project said anything about Newry becoming the next Silicon Valley - that's something you made up. b) In terms of infrastructure, it is within an hour of two international airports and is only a couple of miles from the main highway connecting Belfast and Dublin. You know, the reason it is already a major trading hub between the two countries. c) Most successful startups aren't Facebook or Google or Zynga. They're small and quietly profitable, but that hardly matters to their founders or to their employees. Suggesting that a startup incubator can only be successful if they pump out Facebook sized companies is moronic. A tech journalist should know better. d) Ireland isn't the US. The whole Island is less than half the size of California (and only about 5 times bigger than the Bay Area), so when you talk about Newry having no background in tech, you'd be partly right, but Ireland as a whole has been a major player in the tech scene for decades - the expertise is there, and it's no more than a short drive away from Newry.

Trevor, the issue isn't that people were saying that you were incorrect, and that Newry IS the next Silicon Valley. The objections are: a) the tone of the piece is condescending and slightly xenophobic b) the content is light - 3 paragraphs about a region's intent on developing its startup credentials, followed by a raft of irrelevant info about cities you don't believe are capable of being startup hubs Conflating "startup hub" with "the next Silicon Valley" is a common mistake, and one that I think you were trying to address - if a region sets out to emulate SV by creating a startup hub, it will fail. However, you made exactly the mistake you were trying to highlight. Newry isn't aiming to be SV, it's aiming to leverage its position and infrastructure to stimulate the local economy through small enterprises. Mocking Newry for a mistake that you yourself had made, rather than them, hoists you atop your own petard. The article could have evaluated Newry's chances of becoming a startup hub, and if you wanted to do a geographical comparison piece, then looking at the historical successes and failures of other regions could have been interesting, insightful and relevant. Instead we have a story that tells us nothing of substance, but instead makes you seem prejudiced. Throwing out that the mild xenophobia was supposed to be a joke is neither an admission of wrongdoing, nor an apology. It may be that you don't feel like an apology is necessary for such a light article, and small slight. As other commentators have pointed out, however, these are Pandodaily's early days. With each article, you set a path and a tone for the business.

Nobody is upset because you're saying Newry won't be the next Silicon Valley. Nobody. You're misrepresenting others yet again - only this time, pretty much everyone who has commented above. They're upset that you lifted a piece from The Next Web, seemingly squinted at it through the bottom of a glass jam jar, and proceeded to bastardise the objectives of the work being done in Newry to your own ends and throw in some wildly innaccurate stereotypes which, contrary to you now claiming you didn't believe them to begin with, you reiterated in a thoroughly dickish tweet. You can furiously backpeddle as fast as you like, the fact is your article is insulting, inaccurate, pointless and lazy. I'd also suggest you read Martin Bryant's follow-up piece on the topic, since you also don't seem to understand how the incubator ecosystem works.

Unimpressive back-pedaling to an idiotic article. Read your original source. The 'Emerald Valley' is nothing more than a startup incubator, not the "next Silicon Valley OMFG!!!!". It's a remarkably sensible proposal to leverage its proximity to Dublin, its presence in the UK (with it's favorable tax regime for R&D) and excellent connectivity. Best of all, it needs no government funding. Not sure there is much to dislike really. Indeed, you could perhaps reflect that the original article was written because of the success the endeavor has already achieved. Perhaps you should spend less time sneering at those who are willing to take a risk and achieve something and indulging in the politics of envy?

Trevor, This is frustrating me. You have made assumptions about Newry without doing any research. I'm not here to troll you; I'm not saying any of this or any of the things I have said to be nasty. But the truth is, you have a really powerful platform so when you spout untruths, it does damage. I'm going to point out three of the untruths done here: 1) Nichola Bates never said E-V was trying to turn Newry into the next Silicon Valley. Nic is my best friend and I can confirm for you that her philosophy is that you can't copy Silicon Valley. It just can't be done. 2) Newry has links with many Silicon Valley VC's and private investors, a few of whom have quietly taken office space and established a presence in the town. This is why the town has startups from Silicon Valley and across the world relocating there. 3) Infrastructure? Newry has as much broadband connectivity as the next big city. It doesn't have any issues with this whatsoever. It's 40 mins from Belfast and 1 hour from Dublin and two of the country's main airports. I'm happy to play host to you if you want to come and actually visit. But please don't make assumptions; back up everything you say with research. This all could have been prevented if you'd actually checked the facts out. I'm a journalist. We all get it wrong sometimes. But when I get it wrong, I apologise.

Trevor, This is a good comeback. I pretty much agree with you. But what you did in the first piece, as well as use nationalistic clichés to make your point, was do what a lot of bloggers seem to do: you pressed 'Publish' without proof reading first. And that was what alienated me. I read a lot of stuff from ZDNet... need I say more? Don't get me wrong, there are good writers on ZDNet. I think Zack Whittaker is usually on the money and always seems to check his facts. I also have a lot of respect for Mary-Jo Foley. And then we get into the territory of those who write as if they're getting paid by... well, pick your company, but most often I would charge Microsoft, and then Google Mkll. The lack of research and proliferation of typos seem to go hand in hand, with the latter acting ably as an early warning sign, leading to questions of integrity creeping in all too often. So what I'm personally asking for here, is that you all on PandoDaily maintain a very high standard of both. I have few fears over integrity. You've 'enjoyed' a baptism of fire in your first week. As has been pointed out already, your article has attracted possibly the biggest response so far. I still have few fears over integrity. When the ad revenue comes, I'm sure the editorial meetings will get interesting! Walk that line and keep it real, and I will keep reading.

[...] against all odds to do what it feels needs to be done. Of course, some closed-minded folks are already saying that it should give up trying. Why? Practical considerations, of [...]

Oh, and you might want to read Sarah Lacy's book, "Brilliant, Crazy, Cocky," all about entrepreneurs outside of Silicon Valley. You know, Sarah, your boss?

Not sure what you get by bashing a bunch of small towns. You know where the Silicon Valley of medical technology is? Um, Minneapolis, Minnesota. That scornfully small, scornfully cold city which headquarters Medtronic, St. Jude, and formerly Guidant Corp (purchased by Boston Scientific). And UnitedHealth Group? The largest insurer in the world? Yeah, it's in Minnetonka, a "suburb" of Minneapolis. And ironically we actually consider Ireland to be the "Minnesota of Europe" with respect to med tech, because they have awesome tax laws, and we like to build factories over there. Because of this massive knowledge-base in medical technology, we have a vibrant startup community. Half my friends (myself included) work for start ups in the health and med tech fields.

Ignorant, Americentric, and down right embarrassing. Articles like this really turn me off the site. I think most of us visitors are looking for genuinely interesting and thought-provoking editorials, not sensationalist headlines, which in the long run will cost PandoDaily a lot of readers, namely the ones who actually build the type of products covered on your site. And guess what? These people can be found all over the world.

Come on @sarahcuda. This is like a Paul Carr firebomb, but without the good writing and semi-solid premise. Setting up some straw man argument then making childish and -- even worse -- ignorant jokes... that's not the right direction for Pando Daily.

... and then, of course, there are places that do not have an insecurity complex or identity crisis, and would not be interested in being the next Silicon Valley, Greetings from Gotham, AKA 'The Big Mango'

I think both sides can agree. Portlandia is the next Silicon Valley.

Yes, because all Irish people are farmers, you dick! How does starting an incubator result in accusations that a town is trying to become the next SV? Walk me through that logic. Where did Nicola Bates say that in the TNW article? Newry is actually perfectly positioned as a location for an Irish incubator, it's in the UK but only an hours drive from Dublin. It is already established as a trading centre between the two countries and its economy has been growing year on year for over a decade. That's called research. It took me 5 minutes and I've already analysed the situation better than you did. Is this what we can expect from PandoDaily? Smug, uninformed commentary with a side of bigotry? No thanks, I'll pass.

This is a pretty embarrassing article for @pandodaily. I mean, you're riffing off an op-ed piece on TNW and displaying glaring inaccuracies in content, spelling and grammar. Where's the editorial control? Say what you like about Newry, Sirte or Guam as they do have something in common with Silicon Valley: opportunity. And if you can't see this then it explains why you're the writing intern for @pandodaily and not a successful entrepreneur.

Impossible to beat that level of trolling while commenting... Congrats!

My response will not be to this stereotypical and bigoted article because enough has been said in the following comments about its bad taste and immaturity. I would like to make a statement on the idea of Silicon Valley itself which is a place I admire and I have been to 3 times in the last 4 months. Sarah Lacy herself told me once that Silicon Valley is not about the location but a concept. It is about the mindsets of those that made it happen and keep making it happen everyday. Silicon Valley is a gift to the world that keeps on giving and even if that giving is through imitation which is the sincerest form of flattery then let there be more clones. There is no monopoly to an idea or a mindset and I know for sure that the people who really keep making Silicon Valley what it is are not closed minded or open to help other regions foster this same mindset. From the Omidyar Network with their amazing contributions to Africa to Google employees with their not so charitable contributions to the same region there is a growing awareness that this mindset is contagious and brings out the best in the world. We will continue to love Silicon Valley and take the best of it away to other regions while we leave the worst to keep writing bad stuff for Pandodaily