Your Heirs Won’t Care About Your Crappy MP3 Collection

Yesterday evening, a geekier chunk of the Internet hivemind started buzzing about this article over at Which?. The author raises a few rather interesting questions: what happens to the digital downloads you’ve purchased when you die? Why are we not allowed to pass them on to our loved ones?

By the end, I was ready to grab my pitchfork (read: my pen [sub-read: my PandoDaily login]) and rally the industry for some sort of digital goods will, or an overhaul in licensing terms that would let me bequeath my premium 1′s and 0′s as I saw fit.

But then it hit me: it doesn’t really matter. Once you die, the only person who truly cares about your digital downloads is gone.

Passing your iTunes collection down to your kids isn’t the modern day equivalent to your dad passing his vinyl collection down to you.

Once you take away the physical element*, there is no sense of nostalgia inherent to that file itself. While there may be many a memory associated with a specific album or song, any copy-of-a-copy-of-a-copy that you hand down holds no more sentimental value than a copy of that same song sitting on YouTube. You’re not giving them something of yours, but a distant manifestation of something you paid for.

Once you take away the scarcity, you take away any real value. There’s a perceived value from what you paid for it, but its worth is in no way intrinsic to the digital file itself and isn’t something that rides along with it.

It’s a sacrifice we’ve willingly made in the move to digital: intangible goods are soulless. You wouldn’t be giving them something to remember you by, nor something that may one day send your kid’s kids through college — you’d essentially just be saying “Here, now you don’t have to pay for this stuff.”

That, in turn, raises a question: who will want that stuff? Let’s say you have kids and a few decades later, as we tend to eventually do, die. Think of the advances that will have come in that time. Will your kids even want that (now relatively low-fi) copy of “Sorry For Party Rocking”, when they’ll probably be able to get a raw and uncompressed copy beamed straight into their head (or something like that) in the blink of an eye? All your movies: after a few decades of codec evolution and lost legacy formats, will they even play?

Now, don’t get me wrong: we should be able to do whatever we damned well please with the content we buy. We should be able to give the ebooks we’ve finished reading (or the movies we’ve watched, or the music we no longer listen to) away, just as we could their physical equivalent — but to bring in sentimental arguments like this overcomplicates an already incredible complex issue. Let’s finish battling for what we can do with our digital goods when we’re alive before we worry about what happens to them when we die.

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Disagree. My wife and I share an Amazon account with our son, and we often read and listen to the same things. We've also bought songs and books for specific events, trips, etc., that I expect will have real meaning to him throughout his life. All those Monty Python songs... I sang them with my dad off the vinyl, on the cassette tapes with my bro and friends, and now off the cloud with the boy. Same with games. Together we've logged more than 300 hours on Skyrim. I think we're in the borderland between object-as-artifact and content-as-artifact. In the last 1.5 years I've added about 130 books to my Amazon collection. Someday, it would be cool if my grandchildren could browse those titles and have a read. Why wouldn't I want to pass down "Cryptonomicon," "Hitchhikers' Guide" and "Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep," just because they're words on screen instead of words on paper? Either way, it all ends up in our heads.

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Of course your parents' music taste will probably differ to yours, just like you do not decorate your house the same way as your parents have - tastes are individual and unique. But just as you admire the decor in your friend's house, you can listen to your parents' collection of music and think of them - this will create a different set of emotions as opposed to simply music for music's sake. The interesting question is that of inheriting digital property, you would have thought there would be a big enough market for some good options to be on the market, and for these to be actively pushed to the masses and not just a tech savvy niche.

Oh, so wrong... I _love_ my dad's taste in music, and certain songs really remind me of him very much. His music collection is a careful curation of the things he likes, and if it were to be lost it'd be a real shame. I see no reason why it should be any different with my kids. Physicality of media has nothing to do with it.

I wonder how many people commenting here have lost their parents? When my Mum passed in 2008, she was a pretty digital lady for someone in her late 60s. She'd been buying from iTunes for years. Long enough, in fact, that she still had DRMed music in her collection. When I was clearing down her iMac, I paid for the iTunes Plus upgrade, to strip the DRM out, and added her music collection to mine. And I value it and love it. There aren't many albums in there that I would have bought, but I love listening to the playlist of her music, because it brings her back to mind. So, in essence: you're wrong. Inheriting this music can matter, and matter a great deal.

let's be realistic. how many kids today actually treasure their parents' vinyl collections? a few, i'm sure, but not enough to make note of this like it's a massive cultural shift. the musical generation gap will always exist, regardless of the type of recording.

Interesting articles and comments. Your kids may not want the files - but they might want the playlist, knowledge of what you listened to when and where - data currently being hovered up by music sources / players / streaming sites...

I completely agree with Steven - in the digital age - it's the meta-data that's important not necessarily the files themselves. My father is thankfully still alive so I get to help him setup "smart" playlists of his favorite music. It's been amazing to learn and discuss with him. I can imagine that one day my children will be curious about "my" data as well (hopefully, I'll be here to share or else it will be wife trying to explain Motley Crue). It's a shift from the analog world, but it's no less insightful and valuable.

who gives a fuck if you can hand down your physical media (assuming your kids would even care about it)- time to let it go

agreed. having a physical legacy of your musical tastes seems like an extremely narcissistic reason to collect recordings.

"Passing your iTunes collection down to your kids isn’t the modern day equivalent to your dad passing his vinyl collection down to you." I somewhat disagree -- I think it's all about the packaging. I can see myself picking up an external hard drive full of my dad's music and thinking "this is my dad's music collection." There's a level of sentiment that goes along with that, above what you'd get just with the hard drive. Maybe it's not the same as getting a cabinet full of vinyls, but there's still value in the mp3s. They just have to be packaged correctly.

I think there's a fair chance that what happens to our digital things when we die is tightly entwined with what happens with them while we are alive. What is ownership? It's easy to scoff at the whole thing if we assume the value of someone's digital things is some relatively minor value, such as $500 or for those of us who grew up with comparatively less digital "stuff" (I love my CDs and tapes!)...but we can easily imagine scenarios where either a) the value of the stuff becomes significant (1,000+ albums is not unheard of) or b) the sentimental value is significant and the potential inheritor is from a post-CD, post-DVD, post-Blu-Ray generation. Imagine a young father dying - 15 years later the now 16-year-old child might want to try to reconnect to Dad by listening to all his favorite albums. Think of a kid like the one in the Incredibly Close Really Far or whatever movie that was recently released about 9/11. Further, many of us enjoy less-heralded acts or films that may not always be on the server. How do we ensure these are passed on to children? I'm not a particularly digitally-savvy individual (hardware! tube amps!), but this actually seems like the crux of the entire digital ownership issue to me. How can I own something - truly own it - free of licensing and temporary rights and whatever, such that it can be appropriately allocated even in situations that the latest EULA may fail to predict? How about ownership to "digital" artwork, especially if that artwork has value? We don't have an internet Rembrandts yet, but maybe we will someday. We should try to suss this all out now, if possible, because otherwise who knows how it will be decided - it might be by someone with significantly different interests at play than most consumers.

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Done! Thanks Greg! At the risk of over-posting on this, here's another thing my wife just mentioned - what about logins or other access to, say, an online gambling account with a large sum of money in it? I can imagine a whole host of virtual accounts in which recoverable value might be stored, beyond simply music/film/art. Some online games (MMOs) have robust economies in which virtual property can be exchanged for real, and I've no idea whether their policies explicitly detail the process for asset recovery in the case of death. How does Paypal handle death? Can an heir get account access? How about a creditor?

Given that I have bought my 10 year old child many albums through itunes on my apple id I think she will care someday...

This article totally ignores video games regarding Steam - music is much more forgettable and era-specific, but how many people still enjoy playing Super Mario Brothers? Too bad for present-day Skyrim owners, their heirs don't get to play it without coughing up some dough.

um, the beatles? patsy cline? michael jackson? aretha franklin? the clash? johnny cash? [truncating list of hundreds of other great classic artists] maybe you are really young and don't appreciate how much old music means to most people.. half the FM dial is old music because music is *not* forgettable, and the fact it's era specific makes people nostalgic and remember the good old times, which is why you hear it in movies, at weddings, etc. far more than people playing super mario bros (though i'm one of those myself)... i have gotten a lot of joy checking through my grandparents and parents records, and have claimed some for my own. i for one am really sad my descendants will almost certainly not be perusing my old music due to the reasons described in this article... so i'm doing my best to pass on my tastes before my girls get too old to tolerate it!

Given the enormous resources people have pored into emulation platforms -- arcade, console, and handheld, of course, but also for certain kinds of PC games like text adventures (z machine engines), point-and-click adventures (ScummVM), isometric RPGs (GemRB), etc. -- it won't surprise me at all if someone builds an emulation engine that runs Skyrim based on the original content files from a Steam download or whatever. Or maybe it will survive the way a lot of old games have by moving to something like GOG, which releases patched versions DRM-free after the game has safely graduated to classic status.

My hypothetical children will *love* Fergie, thank you very much.