Moms Are Mad As Hell And…Well, They’ll Just Have To Shop Elsewhere

It hasn’t been getting much tech blog attention, but moms are seriously pissed at Amazon.

The company has curtailed its benefits for its “Amazon Moms” program, and it did so in a less than upfront way, sparking an emotional uproar from parents who had grown to rely on the service’s steep discounts.

Taking a page out of the great Netflix freak out of ’11, thousands of moms are trying to scream loud enough via the Web to force Amazon to reverse its stance. There’s a very emotional petition here, with 1600 signatures.

From the petition:

“Starting on January 24, 2012 the maximum discount available for Amazon Mom members will be 20% (5% for subscribe & save and 15% for Amazon Mom). In addition to that, all members will have to sign up for Amazon Prime at $79/year in order to even receive the 20% off.

Times are very rough, unemployment is high, money is getting harder and harder to come by. This discount is the only way some people can afford to buy the necessities they need for their children, I know it certainly helped my budget. Not to mention all the moms out there without easy access to transportation, or who may be handicapped, who used this program to have necessities delivered right to their door. It was a great program until all the “changes” were rolled out.

First members were offered 30% off total, free Prime membership for a year, and other various perks such as getting to rent a Kindle book per month for free.  Then the program was changed to 20% off total, and if you had to change the size of a diaper, you lost your grandfathered discount.  Finally, the program as it was seems to be ending completely.  New members are blocked from joining, and once your free trial expires, you must pay $79/year to use Amazon Mom while still only getting a 20% discount.  Now users are reporting that Amazon has blocked them from ordering extra shipments of diapers now so that they won’t run out before the free program ends.  That is extremely dishonest.

Considering that Amazon.com had a profit of over 15 billion dollars last year, misleading customers, alienating them, and then refusing to honor their program is not a very warranted or smart practice.

If one woman can start a petition and get Bank of America to remove it’s fees, or Verizon to remove it’s billing fee, then imagine what we can do if we ask Amazon.com CEO Jeff Bezos to remove the charge for Amazon Mom and give us back the original discount. Please help me tell Jeff that what his company is doing is wrong, and we aren’t going to support it!”

It won’t work this time, and it shouldn’t.

Even as a new mom who sympathizes on nearly every mom issue I just can’t get worked up about this one. Amazon offered the program as a way to get moms to switch their buying patterns, and as now that a lot of them have, they are scaling it back. That’s not a huge surprise: Prime coincided with torrid sales growth from $34 billion to $48 billion in one year, but profitability decreased by 45% in 2011. It doesn’t really matter that Amazon had $15 billion in profits last year. The company is under no obligation to gift that to shoppers.

Amazon clearly fumbled how they communicated this, but putting that aside, isn’t this just how retail businesses operate? This was the late 1990s ecommerce playbook: Offer financially untenable deals to get adoption, and then adjust to a model that is more economically viable. That strategy is the basic underpinning behind daily deals sites too. And, for that matter, people who give out samples outside of Mrs. Fields or drug dealers. Get people hooked with the freebies and then charge. Customer acquisition 101.

Besides, Amazon’s value add isn’t really discounts, although the site routinely offers the best prices on many things. I shop at Amazon because of the breath, single-click check out and free delivery via Prime. The differentiator for Amazon is really convenience, and if I were a shareholder, I’d rather they focus on earning customers through convenience than cost-cuts.

There are two kinds of reactions I’ve seen to the mom issue. The first is the person who says they’re going to switch to Target or Wal-Mart now that the bargain is off. Those are the customers that Amazon will lose. And competitors are making hay trying to attract them.

Amazon Prime competitor ShopRunner is offering a new program to capitalize on the anger. Starting today, it’s giving moms a free 15-month membership as long as the customer spends $50 in the first three months of being a member. Participating retailers in the ShopRunner network include ones that totally make sense like ToysRUs, BabiesRUs, and drugstore.com, and ones that are less core to the job of being a mom like American Eagle Outfitters, PetSmart, and Sports Authority. No doubt, Amazon was expecting this.

But the second type of customers signing the petitions are the wackos. One person was arguing she wouldn’t be able to afford diapers for her kids any more. I understand we’re in a time of economic uncertainty, but if things are that bad, it’s not really Amazon’s job to fix it. This isn’t a social services organization, this is a for-profit company. And if you considered Amazon Moms in your economic decision to have a child, that’s part of a larger problem. I also saw someone demanding that Amazon not only restore the service but issue “reparations.” That’s a loaded word. There’s a big difference between paying full price for diapers and slavery.

I’m sure Amazon assumed they’d lose some customers in the first category; the ones who were only in the program for the discounts. Likewise, no one offering a Groupon expects all customers to come back once they have to pay full price. No customers acquisition strategy works 100% of the time.

As for the wackos, Amazon has a history of not caving– even when it’s arguably the legitimate thing to do. I hope Amazon doesn’t cave this time, not because I hate moms, but because people are already citing the precedent set by the Netflix cave. At some point, companies will stop giving people discounts if they feel like there will be too big of a backlash if ever they have to rescind it for legitimate business reasons

Here’s a radical idea: Shouldn’t all those people on the petition saying this was a “financial life-saver” for their family just feel a little grateful it ever existed? Maybe a “thank you” for offering it to begin with and not rescinding it completely?

What’s worse: Having lost your diaper discount or never having one in the first place?

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Coupons are an American epidemic. Now that we are pulling ourselves out of this recession, why would companies give these huge discounts? You can already see companies like Groupon and Living Social transitioning to more modest discounts and even selling more goods. I suspect this will continue to happen until the "50% off" discounts become a thing of the past. Smart acquisition move by Amazon. As long as they offer a high quality service these moms won't be going anywhere.

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Where is this magical $15 billion in profits that Amazon is making? From what I see of their 2011 earnings, it's under $1 billion.

If you can't afford kids, stop having them.

I am exactly the kind of customer that Amazon Mom was looking for and got! When you live 30 miles from Wal-Mart, 100 miles from Target, etc. the cost of goods now includes lots of gas and lots of time to procure. I have been extremely pleased with Amazon. The diaper discount was just bonus. The gave me Prime shipping free for an entire year! It will end for me at the end of this month, and I will gladly be paying the $80 for a paid membership. When your few minutes of quiet to think and figure out what you need are in the middle of the night, it is awesome to sit down at the computer and order the laundry soap, safety pins, and KIND bars you were needing and to have them show up on your porch seemingly the next morning. Plus, their customer service is second to none. I've had small issues with maybe four orders and they have quickly and simply corrected the problems to my satisfaction. I have to think that the moms who signed that petition or have that kind of attitude are severely sleep-deprived. =)

Sarah, I'm surprised you didn't mention why Amazon.com launched Amazon Moms in the first place, and why it feels safe shutting it down now. Have you already forgotten about Quidsi?

When I had my child, I lost my job when he was six months old. Single mum. I paid full price for those diapers. I also paid part-time day care to keep my slot until I found work. You make things work, set priorities, make sure your kids come first. This is total bullsh*t. Amazon doesn't have to make any apologies for building their business. They accomplished what they wanted, to change behavioral shopping patterns. Done. If you don't want to pay their prices, go elsewhere. STFU and act like a responsible parent.

Well said. Amazon's a business, not a charity. I know diapers are expensive (been there, done that) but if the household budget is so tight that you have to choose between diapers and eating, you're "food insecure" and eligible for help from your local food pantry. I doubt very much that these mad moms are in that situation (shopping online implies that you can afford a computer and an internet connection, that you live in a safe enough neighborhood that you can risk having a delivery left on your doorstep, and that you have sufficient credit to be using a credit card). So their approach is overly dramatic--emotional blackmail if you will. I hope that some of these moms will organize themselves to distribute diapers to the handicapped and housebound they claim to represent, rather than whine at a large corporation for deciding not to subsidize them any longer.

As someone that spent the last half decade in the grocery coupon space, I can say from experience that "grateful" goes out the window with extreme couponers and those that are serious about savings. It's an absolute culture of entitlement with a severe lack of understanding that coupons, deals, rewards, etc. are marketing vehicles designed to attract customer, launch a new product, or get members for new services. In their world, brands "owe" them deals, coupons and offers. If I have $1 for every email or Facebook post I received that told me I ruined someone's life because there were no more Frosted Flakes coupons left, I could live a happy life on the beach.

i think you deserve a t-shirt for that. if you would like one email oni at pandodaily dot com. WE DON'T OWE YOU THIS TSHIRT! WE ARE GIVING IT TO YOU BECAUSE WE LIKE YOU! DON'T YELL AT US A YEAR FROM NOW IF YOU DON'T GET ANOTHER ONE! ;)

You're not gonna give him another? After all he's read? He even commented your post... You owe him annual shirtage.

I think this is much more apropos to the issue than the "entitled moms" comments above. Look at the freak-out every time gas prices go up a few cents. And our gas prices are dramatically lower than in most European countries. We are so used to subsidized living that we expect it everywhere. No matter if others (migrant workers, Chinese workers, taxpayers) have to pay for the "discount" we receive to have strawberries in winter, a new iPhone every year, or corn syrup stuffed into our foods. Ooops, just a little off-topic there. Apologies.

Couldn't agree more! Having enjoyed the Amazon Mom program for a year myself, I can understand the disappointment of losing the benefits, but I've also had the luxury of not paying sales tax, so it's really hard to complain once you add up all the savings that 'Mom' provided! End of the day, I'm glad to see Amazon doing the responsible thing at a time that makes sense for the business. I'll probably end up joining Prime, and enjoying other benefits (e.g. free movies and tv shows) while paying a tiny amount for what I'll chalk up as annual shipping costs.

Personally, I got used to the discounts. It was a great deal while it lasted, but I think that the termination of the deal is directly related to their acquisition of Diapers.com. I knew when I read about that deal that the 30% off diapers was going to go away because Amazon was buying out their competition. I knew of families that were buying from either Diapers.com or Amazon just to maximize the amount of money that they were saving. I had no problem converting from my "Mom" (I am a guy) prime membership to a paid membership because I saw the value in having that service. The bonus was I got a free year out of it. Honestly, Amazon has a huge advantage for savings and convenience anyway so it is worth paying the $79 per year. We received a discount to finish out our baby registry. The savings for that alone displaced the $79.

great point vis a vis diapers.com

Thanks for writing this post so that some other writer didn't have to get hit with the mommy-wrath of "You're not a mom, so there's no way you could possibly understand!"

ha. i almost assigned it paul carr but i wrote it myself for exactly that reason. ;) #motrinads

What the hell is a motrinad?

Classic example of bad advertising. I didn't know about this. Thanks! http://crisiscomm.wordpress.com/2009/01/28/motrin-moms-case-stud/

'Times are tough so Amazon can shove their incredibly generous 20% discount - we're going to pay full retail somewhere else.' With parents like those, did the kids ever stand a chance? Also, what in the name of Dora the Explorer did they think was going to happen when the 'free TRIAL' ran out?

When it comes to customer retention and marketing it does not matter one iota who is "right". Are amazon going to be any happier that the 10,000 customers they just lost to to negative publicity because their customers "got it wrong". That kind of misses the point. Regardless, it is an interesting case study into discounts, promotions and customer reactions.

They wont have lost 10,000 customers. Most of these moms will fume for a week, realise that Amazon is still the cheapest, most convenient option and come back. I expect the move will work out a big net positive for Amazon (the reduction of the discount + the Prime fee will be much greater than any lost revenue from angry customers).

i agree with james. i complain about stuff all the time but actually changing behavior is pretty hard. and amazon is still pretty competitive. (not saying they couldn't have handled it better and left those returning customers happy.)

The customers who leave will tend to be the least loyal and most likely to kick up a fuss. In other words, the least valuable ones. Amazon and its regular customers will benefit by not having to subsidise them.

Sarah, I agree with your point that Amazon should focus on earning customers through convenience v. discounts. An over-reliance on discounts can negatively and permanently impact the perceived value of your product, and clawing your way back out can be difficult or impossible. While I don't fault Amazon for bringing this discount program to a close, I do think your article here does a disservice here by making it's focus an audience of "ungrateful" mothers who should have just been happy to get cheaper diapers in the first place. The point is that Amazon had an enormous and loyal fan base of moms using their site. Their inability to transition smoothly out of the Amazon Moms program while maintaining their goodwill is a massive fail. Customer acquisition 101? How about customer retention 101?

that was hardly the point of the post, and i agree they handled it badly. total customer retention fail. but a petition to force them to give the benefits back is silly.

Well, on that last point, yeah.

If these "Mother's" can't afford to be buying the stuff they need for their kids. What the fuck are they doing having kids in the first place for then? My god, the stupid people in this country have out numbered the ones with "Common Sense". *sigh*

You had me at '“Mother’s”'

Ha! I just slurped too much seltzer thanks to you, Paul.

The entitlement that seems to come with every kid never ceases to amaze me. While I certainly don't think people should stop breeding, isn't it a selfish move at this point? We don't NEED humans, nor do we need kids as farm workers much anymore.